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Post by menacing on Oct 11, 2022 23:51:59 GMT
Okay, who cares? Still follows official design conventions. Maths is all good. Limit is yourself. OPA *definitely* isn't going to waste time making an army for a 3D printed set that doesn't come from OPR. There's a thousand awesome physical sets that don't. And ten thousand awesome printable sets that don't. All those that existed already are axed or in the process of being axed. Use Humans or something, its pretty genericised.
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Post by ramior on Oct 12, 2022 10:31:40 GMT
I care.
The original idea of game like OPR was to give rules to miniature who don't have one and here it's the occasion to give rule from an non GW/Mantic product, wich could extant the reach of OPR.
Also stop act like evrybody should come up with the rule, not everybody is good, or have time to make up rule.
It's condescending.
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Post by menacing on Oct 12, 2022 11:13:25 GMT
Noo the original point of OPR was OPA was tired of GW's BS.. The first OPR releases were just 40k armies. No name changes. Just simpler stats and rules. He cannot possibly support every army somebody would want. And conveniently we have the tools provided that he uses to make armies with for explicitly the purpose of making our own. Somebody has ALREADY done that work for you if you want Araby or Nippon. Its right there. You download and play with it. Or you click an army that okays the way you want and change the names of units with a pencil or with the rename tool that the webapp already has. This isn't even the first time this has been told to you. Seems like the third.
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Post by JoeKundlak on Oct 12, 2022 11:54:28 GMT
I must admit Menacing is right - the webapp is there for anything you would want to do for a fan-made army (and there are already such armies out there). It's like going to GW and showing them your 3D prints and demanding they make an official army out of them.
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Post by baradaeg on Oct 12, 2022 14:17:54 GMT
If you want an army book for unofficial models, you will have to take an unofficial army book.
The official factions will all get official models and with the wide range of already covered rules for models and units it is very unlikely that you won't find anything fitting for those models.
To add onto this OPR just got rid of all the collaboration army books for the next iteration of the army books, so the chances are very slim that any new would be added, especially when it doesn't come from the miniature creator themselves via the official lines.
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Post by ramior on Oct 12, 2022 14:21:00 GMT
JoeKundlak : "It's like going to GW and showing them your 3D prints and demanding they make an official army out of them. "
Well they should have, they introduce the concept of "Araby" and outside of Warmaster, never do anythin with it.
I'm just tired of indepedant creator that don't profit of GW absence in the market and to go beyond "GW" clone with proposing new faction.
Outside the Duchy, and mantic army, OPR do the same mistake then most independant creator.
That the issue.
I don't care for homebrew, it's must be officialy supported for maximum visibility if not what the point ?
And one last thing, stop assuming that everybody is good whit making rules, not everybody have the competence, or time to do so even with material.
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Post by ramior on Oct 12, 2022 14:23:14 GMT
To add onto this OPR just got rid of all the collaboration army books for the next iteration of the army books, so the chances are very slim that any new would be added, especially when it doesn't come from the miniature creator themselves via the official lines.
How so ? Adding new thing to erase the old factions.
There taking account to make the new faction playable, not cancel them.
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Post by menacing on Oct 12, 2022 14:52:55 GMT
Suppose you'll just have to be content with never being able to play Araby in OPR then, because at this point the only person stopping you is yourself.
The rules are available. Look well written and mathematically proper. Fairly sure they have it for both release and beta versions.
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Post by ramior on Oct 12, 2022 14:58:45 GMT
because at this point the only person stopping you is yourself.
No it's the fact they don't have official rules that doesn't make playable.
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Post by menacing on Oct 12, 2022 15:10:09 GMT
That is a restriction you are placing on yourself.
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Post by baradaeg on Oct 12, 2022 15:32:22 GMT
To add onto this OPR just got rid of all the collaboration army books for the next iteration of the army books, so the chances are very slim that any new would be added, especially when it doesn't come from the miniature creator themselves via the official lines.
How so ? Adding new thing to erase the old factions.
There taking account to make the new faction playable, not cancel them.
Because the collaboration armies were more or less copies of other existing armies, just with new names. And the Araves models don't look like they would bring anything to the table that is not already there as part of already existing factions and 2 hero models which would boil down to a single hero unit and 3 normal units are by far not enough for a whole army book, maybe for Skirmish, but not for the big games. |
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Post by ramior on Oct 12, 2022 16:23:34 GMT
And the Araves models don't look like they would bring anything to the table that is not already there as part of already existing factions.
They also have flying carpet & Djinn, don't think they have an equivalent in other AoF army.
You'r cleary don't read what I wrote and refuse to understand it.
Get out.
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Post by menacing on Oct 12, 2022 16:56:36 GMT
I perfectly understand what you are saying. I'm telling you it's a bad mindset to have in OPR environment.
Your examples aren't even that great. What is a Djinn but a spellcaster? many armies have that. A magic carpet rider theres multiple flying or strider cavalry and heroes on small flying mounts
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Post by kphan1212 on Dec 25, 2022 6:49:09 GMT
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