GF - Space Elves Expanded v2.50 (Ynnari, Forgeworld Eldar)

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  Hi! I was asked by a friend to put together some way to use Ynnari models, and I think I've managed to do it in a very satisfactory way, with lore that fits well into the existing OPR blurbs. This list is designed to be (mostly) v2.50 compliant, but is currently either not priced, or priced for v2.00 and not compatible with Army Forge / v2.50 armies..

Featuring:

• Ynnari units (Yncarne, Yvraine, and The Visarch)
  
• Bonersinger!
  
• Additional Aspect Warriors (one with models, three that are entirely made up aside from the names)
  
• All? Forgeworld stuff for Eldar? I think? Even the Firestorm!
  

Let me know what you think!

WIP :

Warlock Titan

Bright Stallion?

Link to the definitely-up-to-date version:
opr-list-builder.herokuapp.com/army-books/view/v28o5gaqrvf11e4h/print

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EDIT 17 September 2021:

Added options for Cobra, Scorpion, and Lynx

Adjusted hero unit weapons down a tad to fit a bit closer with vanilla lists

EDIT 19 September 2021:

Added Slicing Orbs.

EDIT 20 September 2021:

Renamed, adjusted, and added an upgrade for Spectre Squad

• Prism Carbine (18" A1 AP(2) Blast(3)) -> Prism-Burst (18" A1 AP(1) Blast(3))
• New weapon option: Prism-Fuse (18", A1 AP(2), Deadly(3))

Added unit options

• Cult Initiates, a mix of HEF Defender Squads and DER Warriors, with option for HEF weapon platforms and any combination of Shardguns and Barb Rifles
  
• Cult Devoted, an Avenger Squad-ish unit who can take Cult tech weapons
• Crystal Dragons
  
• Bonesinger (Chanter)
• Light Skimmer, same as it is on v2.50 Dark Elf Raiders, for a transport option if someone wants to use only this list to play

EDIT 21 September 2021:

Renamed Whisper Shard/Barb Carbines to Cult Shard/Barb Carbines to fix a statline having a weird line break

Added unit for Kyria Draxus (Robot-Hating Inquisitor) because she hates robots why did i add this? no idea

EDIT 23 September 2021:

Added Drukhari Tantalus (Superheavy Skimmer)

EDIT 25 September 2021:

Renamed a few units

• Avatar of Whispers -> Avatar of Silence
• Whisper's Champion -> Cult Champion
  

Adjusted Avatar of Silence

• Lowered attacks by 1
• Lowered to Psychic(1) to be more in line with other v2.50 units (Psychic(2) is exceedingly rare)
  
• Removed Teleport
  
• added new Vengeance rule: This model gets +X attacks in melee with a weapon of its choice, where X is how many wounds it has suffered.

Adjusted Superheavy Skimmer

• Increased Tough to 18 since I didn't quite comprehend just how large the model actually is
  
• Added a melee weapon for its massive blades on the sides
  
• Added Strider since I forgot
  

Added upgrades to represent most of the last few Ynnari relics (Horeg Cai's Locket and Hungering Blade)

• Horeg Cai's Locket -> Ancient Locket (Vengeance); Not a 1:1, but I have been trying to use pre-existing games rules, and I think this maintains the spirit of the relic, to some extent.
• Hungering Blade -> Slicing Orb Squad upgrade Hunger-Sword (A3, AP(1), Withering(Enemies that roll to block hits from this weapon take one additional wound for each unmodified result of 1 that they roll.))
• I have been entirely unsure how to do Soul-Snare. I'm dropping it for now, but in the future a rule may exist or I may have an idea that fits it well enough.
  

Overall, I feel these changes make the army feel much more similar to the more-powerful-over-time mechanics of their inspiration.

EDIT 27 September 2021:
Added link to Steam Workshop you can use for the army in Tabletop Simulator

EDIT 01 Feb 2022:

Changed name slightly to be found more easily by anybody Ctrl-F-ing the web companion for Ynnari or Forgeworld

Added a few units:

• Firestorm-pattern Falcon (Anti-Air Hover Tank)
  
• Wraithblades with Axe/Shield (Cult Wraith Suits)

Removed several units since they either didn't actually make much sense in the list and were just bloating it, or were completely redundant with the "parent" lists (DER and HEF):

• Outcast Sister and Outcast Jester (I have their information saved and might place these into their own list if somebody asks, but otherwise they're gone)
  
• Weird Inquisitor (A weird addition in the first place, was only here because there's a GW model for it (Kyria Draxus). It fit with the faction lore, but only because current RL and elf lore has them as mortal enemies, and lore is currently being changed. Just use Yvraine's statline, pretty sure it was mostly identical anyways )
  
• Light Skimmer

Avatar:

• Soul-Sword: (A3, AP(3), Deadly(3)) -> (A2, AP(2), Deadly(3)), to make Vengeance stacks less oppressive until more testing can be done on Vengeance's pricing (the list it was borrowed from, Clans of the War Cry, had no formula, just a flat price)
  
• Moved back to Psychic(2)

Slicing Orbs:

• Psychic Abomination was changed to simply be an Anti-Psychic (Null Aura). Its almost always going to be better (when are you within 12" of more than one psychic at once?) and removes the necessity to track a moving 12" aura from 5 models

Heavy Hover Tank

• Heavy Laser Lance (36" A2 AP3 D6) -> (36" A3 AP3 D6). Not sure why this was that low before, it was identical to the v2.50 Fire Prism cannon lol

Chanter

• granted access to cult relic upgrades and adding a Cult Champion model, because why not. make a blender unit with some wraithblades, a visarch and a bonesinger i guess lol

Changed up the spell list (don't remember what, but names and effects have all been changed, some entirely)

EDIT 02 Feb 2022:

Added more units.. prices a work-in-progress

• Hornet (Hover Assault Vehicle)
  
• Warp Hunter (Cult Hover Tank, joint unit with the Firestorm)
  
• Revenant Titan (Spectre Kilotitan)
  
• Phantom Titan (Eidolon Gigatitan)
• Skathack Wraithknight (Cult Wraith Titan)
• Night Wing (Dusk Strike-Fighter)

Changed Anti-Air Hover Tank -> Cult Hover Tank, it is now a combined unit with the Warp Hunter since they're both a Falcon chassis anyways

Added weapon option to Spectre Squad: [Prism-Scatter (18", A2, AP(2))], which bridges the gap between Burst and Fuse options, without being better than either

Added my lore document? if anybody gives a shit i guess lol

EDIT 02 Feb 2022 #2

fixed half the prices being missing

Added a unit boon upgrade to Visarch/Cult Champion that harkens to his 40k Warlord Trait, granting a small Poison effect (6s to-hit double hits instead of triple)

EDIT 03 Feb 2022

Changed Slicing Orb squad quite significantly

• Silent Glaive replaced with upgrade option Hunger-Blade, and renamed to Magebane Sword (The glaives were a strange choice in the first place, as far as I can tell, only because I was using Singing Spear Eldar Warlocks to playtest with)
  
• Unit was given a choice between two types of pistol, further implying the original intent of their origin as DER Witches
  
• removed Impact, since it was a function of the polearm weapon and awkward otherwise
  

EDIT 19 Feb 2022

Changed Yncarne / Avatar of Silence to be more in line with the (much cooler) newly revealed Yncarne for the 9e codex

• Removed Vengeance since it was just too hard to balance on something that large
  
• Tough(9) -> Tough(12) (to match durability more closely to damage output)
  
• changed Soul-Sword (A2, AP(2), Deadly(3), Vengeance) -> Soul-Sword (A4, AP(4), Deadly(3))
• granted Soul Blast: like AoF Fire Breath / Breath Attack, but can hit up to 3 units within 6" with 3 AP(1) hits
  

EDIT 05 Apr 2022

Changed Soul Blast to just be AoF's Breath Attack because holy shit that was OP

adjusted AP of a few weapons, added a Stomp type attack to Yncarne

began pricing for v2.50

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    Bumpan for v1.0.0. I feel its about finished. It covers basically all Ynnari stuff, Eldar superheavy vehicles (including Void Spinners, which are kitbash-only, unless you're playing Epic-scale and have a model that's been out of production for decades). Has a lot of custom stuff to fill out the list to be an army all on its own, but it shouldn't be hard to pick out what is supposed to be what for most units if you're familiar with OPR naming conventions.

If not- Ynnari-specific units are the first 3 units, and the second page has the superheavies on it - Tantalus, Lynx, and a combined unit for the Cobra, Scorpion, and Void Spinner since they share a chassis.

I will be adding a Tabletop Simulator workshop item in the near future that has the complete army, properly named with some recolored Fire Dragons to represent Crystal Dragons, and a Void Spinner that was in a the Battleforged mod (which was the only reason I knew it existed in the first place).

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started pricing for v2.50; if you're opposed to army forge version for some reason then uhhh lol i don't care, stop being a boomer

Triumverate and Bonesinger are all priced so far as those are probably the parts being used. If you need something else priced just let me know, only takes a few minutes unless its one of the big lads

[jhoelchuy]

i am bookmarking all your "price" post. Thank you man.